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Grading the offseason: Vikings accomplished top goals

Jan 1, 2017; Minneapolis, MN, USA; Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer looks on during the fourth quarter against the Chicago Bears at U.S. Bank Stadium. The Vikings defeated the Bears 38-10. Mandatory Credit: Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports

The signing of wide receiver Michael Floyd likely wraps up major offseason moves for the Minnesota Vikings. So after picking up a number of free agents and completing another draft, we are probably safe in asking: How did they do?

An unscientific poll on the 1500ESPN Twitter account found the majority of Twin Cities sports fan voters would give the Vikings a solid mark for their offseason. Those higher and lower were split.

Admittedly, grading an offseason is a little like grading a draft: We won’t know whether it was good, bad or somewhere in between until at least the end of the 2017 season. However, we can evaluate whether the team completed its offseason goals and whether key pieces were lost to free agency.

So here are the three biggest goals and “demerits,” which are lost players or holes that went unfilled.

Goal:

Markedly improve the offensive line

It would be polite to say the Vikings’ offensive line struggled last year. Even before the line battled a slew of injuries, they were still well below average despite the team’s belief they had fixed things up front last offseason. Sam Bradford was constantly under pressure even when the Vikings flipped their offense to focus on short passes and the Vikings also finished dead last in yards per carry in the run game.  Pro Football Focus ranked Minnesota’s line 30th in the league. Fixing the line was the No. 1 goal of the offseason by a mile.

Fix: 

Sign Riley Reiff and Mike Remmers, draft center Pat Elflein 

While there are question marks around all three players the Vikings acquired to improve the O-line, odds are that they made a large step forward from last season. Both Reiff and Remmers were forced to play out of position in 2016 and had below average years, but it’s reasonable to expect them to bounce back to the strong run blockers and middle-of-the-pack pass blockers that they were in 2015. The Vikings did have to spend a big chunk of their cap room on Reiff and Remmers, but neither player’s contract locks the team in long term.

Elflein is expected to start at center Day 1, which will be a big challenge, but starting him in the middle allowed the Vikings to move Joe Berger to right guard, which acts as another upgrade from Brandon Fusco, who was cut at the beginning of the offseason.

The only way the Vikings could have done a better job with their top goal would have been to sign star left tackle Andrew Whitworth, but he elected to sign with the L.A. Rams.

Goal: 

Add weapons for Sam Bradford

Both Adam Thielen and Stefon Diggs were excellent for the Vikings last year, both ranking in the top 20 by Pro Football Focus’s ratings, and Kyle Rudolph set a career high in catches, but it was clear that Bradford needed more help in order to maximize his talents. Cordarrelle Patterson was effective early in the season, but teams started to gameplan for short passes and screens coming his way. And while a major portion of the run struggles could be attributed to the offensive line, the Vikings needed to improve from injured Adrian Peterson and Matt Asiata in the backfield.

Fix:

Draft Dalvin Cook, re-sign Adam Thielen, sign Latavius Murray and Michael Floyd, draft two receivers and a tight end 

The Vikings made a major effort to surround Bradford with better talent. It’s hard to know whether Rodney Adams, Stacey Coley or Bucky Hodges will have an impact this season, but there’s a good chance Dalvin Cook could become the star of the Vikings’ offense. Cook gives Minnesota’s offense a big-play threat out of the backfield, which was not there last year as they ranked last in runs over 10 yards.

Latavius Murray’s skill set fits nicely with the West Coast offense. He’s an excellent pass blocker and has the size to improve the Vikings’ short yardage running game. The presence of Murray and Cook should allow the Vikings to use Jerick McKinnon as a Swiss Army Knife in the offense.

Keeping Thielen was huge for the Vikings. He was an RFA, which opened up the possibility of another team giving him an offer sheet, but he returns to Minnesota on a reasonable contract. PFF tweeted that the Vikings’ quarterback had a 122 quarterback rating when throwing Thielen’s way. Michael Floyd is a wild card. When he’s at his best, the long-time Cardinal is a high-quality deep threat. But his history of off-field issues with DUIs is a major concern.

The Vikings did pursue Alshon Jeffery in free agency. He chose the Eagles on a one-year deal instead. Adding the former Bears star would have been the only way the Vikings could have done better with this goal.

Goal: 

Keep the defense in tact

The Vikings’ defense may have slipped down the stretch in 2016, especially with Harrison Smith dinged up, but it still finished as one of the league’s elite, ranking sixth in points allowed and third in yards against. Sure, the O-line and weapons are improved, but Minnesota’s ticket to the postseason is on the defensive side.

Fix: 

Re-sign Terence Newman, sign Datone Jones, draft LB Ben Gedeon and Jaleel Johnson 

Whether Newman can continue to play at a high level at age 39 is yet to be seen, but he was terrific for the Vikings in 2016, ranking among the best in the NFL in Yards Per Attempt Against. Newman and Trae Waynes often split series, which is what we should expect this year.

With serious uncertainty surrounding Sharrif Floyd, the Vikings needed to find a three-technique defensive tackle in the worst way. Jones had been playing outside linebacker for the Packers, so it’s still yet to be seen whether he can hold down the position. But the Vikings drafted Jaleel Johnson, a DT from Iowa, to provide more depth.

Gedeon had great mesaurables at the Combine and might be used in key run situations to replace Chad Greenway.

Demerits:

Losing Captain Munnerlyn and Cordarrelle Patterson to free agency, failing to find a future tackle or add veteran insurance on the O-line and defensive secondary

When Captain Munnerlyn signed with the Carolina Panthers, it seemed like a foregone conclusion that the Vikings would bring in an experienced nickel corner like Nickell Robey-Coleman to replace him. Instead it appears they will turn the keys over to Mackensie Alexander, who didn’t see much of the field last year and hasn’t played the nickel role before. Unless there’s a plan to bring in another corner before camp, they might be playing with fire. Teams use three receivers between 60%-70% of the time in the NFL, meaning the nickel spot is as valuable as another other starting defensive position.

Patterson isn’t seen as a huge loss, but he was the best kick returner in the NFL and added a playmaking element that the Vikings might have been able to work with even more – whether that meant running the ball more often or getting more creative in the passing game. Fifth-round pick Rodney Adams played a similar role in college, but the role might not be easy to fill. Patterson was special with the ball in his hands.

The draft was very weak with offensive linemen, so it’s understandable that the Vikings did not select a tackle, but behind Reiff and Remmers there are huge questions. Failing to add another veteran or draft a player who could be molded into a starter may prove to be regrettable.

Bottom line:

The voters probably have this one right. The Vikings did everything they could this offseason to support their quarterback, who was often left out to dry in 2016 and they did not lose any tough-to-replace players like Adam Thielen.

 

 

  • Gordon Guffey

    Agree and disagree but all in all not a bad write up Matthew Coller ~ This is going to be a long one ~ LOL

    Losing Captain Munnerlyn and Cordarrelle Patterson to free agency, failing to find a future tackle or add veteran insurance on the O-line and defensive secondary.

    Floyd should not be anything more than a vet with lots of talent on a one year deal looking to prove he can still be a pro bowler ~ And hopefully he does I hope he turns out to be the best WR in the NFL this year and get paid big money even if its not by the Vikings ~ However I still have questions and wonder if he can make the team while staying out of trouble ~ Also if Michael Floyd is as fast as many say then maybe he gets a try as the next returnerWR ~ He should be willing to show teams that he can do everything in hope of a big contract ((( I dont believe it will be with the Vikings because of their own play contract coming up ))) after this season or maybe just making the Vikings in 2018 if he turns out to be just OK ~

    Say what ~ ??? failing to find a future tackle ~ This has to be a misprint ~ Or maybe you meant failing to find a future Pro Bowl tackle ~ As for depth there should be enough ~ Its not always hard to replace a single play lost to injury but replacing 4 is another story ~ Last years left OT was basically a OG playing OT ~ Sirles wasn’t half bad at right OT and I’m sure he will be the swing OT this year ~ Easton is a find backup if he isn’t starting ~ Then there is still cuts for teams to make and if need be there are trades that could be made up until the 8th game ~ No one can name one good OL outside of Berger sense Norv signed on ~ I can help but believe the blocking scheme will change this offseason ~ Surely they want use the same one that hasn’t work the last 3 seasons ~

    If Alexander doesn’t workout as the replacement for Munnerlyn in year two ((( gut feeling is he will be much better in year two and will have Rhodes and Newman on his butt over film study ))) then I believe we will see Newman take over where he will see less deep speed and at his age this could be a good thing even though he was outstanding about 97% of the time ~ Only question is when does father time step in ~ Thats one thing Newman has been able to hold off and even as good as Newman has been he cant beat father time ~ No one can ~ Hopefully Newman has one more outstanding season left in him ~ I also believe this is the year Trae Waynes steps up as the fully time starting either at CB or maybe he become the the replacement for Munnerlyn ~ Again there are still cut for teams to make and trades that can be made up until the 8th game for depth ~

    As a Vikings fans I’m more than happy with this offseason ~ Could they have done better ~ Sure if they didn’t have to trade away their first round pick for Bradford because of the injury to Bridgewater ~ I’m still happy with that trade and Bradford’s talents and how they fit the Vikings are far better and (((proven ))) than anyone the Vikings could have got at # 14 ~ But I hate that Teddy had to get hurt for the Vikings to land Bradford who I believe is the QB of the future ~ The draft on paper still when very well as did FA that brought in two starting OT’s who are huge upgrades over last season ~ They got Floyd and draft picks who could replace Patterson ~ I think they should give Floyd every chance to replace Patterson as a returner as well as WR ~ If he flames out then cut and run ~

    Lastly is all the new coaches on offense and how they mightshould use them ~ This is something I have yet to see much from ESPN1500 ~ I believe this is as important if not more important than the players added ~ The offense has not look good sense Norv showed up and even though he took his ball and when home mad after game 7 this was still very much his offense outside of the play calling and even that was made hard because of the crappy offense Norv and his son Scott installed ~ No way no how can you install a different offense in the middle of the season ~ The great thing about the new coaches is Pat Shurmur had a big input to the coaches who will fit his offense and Zimmer and Spielman made sure he understood they would work as a group like the defense does ~ Unlike Norv who was trusted with the offense and given final say over everything ~ And they are well known coaches who have worked in different areas of the offense ~ They also come from good teams with good programs ~ Just look at the new TE coach Clancy Barone who happens to have been a fine OL coach with the Broncos ~ He could turn out to be a huge help to Sparano bring new ideas ~ Barone has also coached TE ~ I just as excited to see how the new offensive coaches work as I am the next players added this offseason ~ Hopefully they work well together ~

    • Jeeves

      I usually agree with most of what you say, “2G’s”. SKOL!

    • BT

      Gordon may God help us if Sam Bradford is our QB of future! Please Rick don’t sign our future away to Mr. Dink and Dunk make him prove it! Who we need to pay is Xavier Rhodes!

      Gordon just remembered that loss to Detroit Thanksgiving Day. Sam had good blocking all game! Couldn’t keep a drive going because he wanted to throw quick.
      When we needed him most he got baited to throw the same way he did all game “SHORT” got picked off by a DB who knew what was coming!!!

      We lost! Thanksgiving down the drain!
      So take that completion % and shove it up you pie hole!!!!!! No playoffs games, No winning Seasons, No Pro Bowls!
      #Bradfordstillsucks!!!!!

      • I have to agree, the day Bradford is shown the door is the day the Vikings QB position will finally move forward.
        Statue Sammy has no heat, no leadership qualities, no ability to lead a team back in the 4th quarter.

        • No Patience for Idiots

          “Statue Sammy” just followed Turner’s weak offensive game plan…which was “dink and dunk” because of his OL, you moron. I’m SICK of people dissing this guy. He had NO time to set and throw. He was playing behind a historically awful, porous OL. What the hell do you expect him to do? Be a tackling dummy? He HAD NO CHOICE but to get the ball out quickly..a la “dink and dunk”….or else get hammered. I think Spielman will sign Bradford to a long-term deal not only because he’s in a stable situation FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER, but also because I don’t believe Teddy will EVER play again in the NFL. Period. My uncle is an orthopedic sports surgeon who’s operated on NFL and Div 1 players and consulted with NFL teams, and he’s followed and examined Teddy’s medicals very closely. Even knows some of his surgeons, who told him it “looked like his knee just exploded” when they first opened it up. In his opinion, Bridgewater will be lucky to walk without a limp, much less EVER be a starting NFL QB again. He suffered as bad a knee injury as you can have, and if not for the triage done by the Vikings trainers before the ambulance arrived, might have lost the leg below the knee. He’s done, guys. Time to move on. Just bad luck, but the outcome is the same.

          Bradford showed tremendous leadership and adaptability last season. He’s a naturally quiet guy who leads BY EXAMPLE, not by “heat”. Every time he got driven into the turf last year, he picked himself up, shook it off, and got back in the huddle. THAT’S REAL leadership. He’s a VERY ACCURATE passer (ask his receivers, or hell, just watch his tape) whose deep throws, WHEN HE HAD THE TIME, were always right on the money. He gained the respect of every player on the team without being a loudmouth. Just went out and did his job every day, no matter how poorly supported he was by his teammates, PARTICULARLY the OL, which will be MUCH improved this year. He always took responsibility and never blamed his teammates, even when he could easily have done so. And he wants to justify his #1 selection and prove his critics wrong. No “fire”? Underestimate him at your own peril, “2Gs”, you blathering imbecile.

          As for the OL changes, Reiff and Remmers were both played out of position last year but will be restored to their natural, historically-best positions on the Vikings OL this year. And as much as I’m excited by Cook, he’s a boom or bust guy. He’ll either be great or awful. No in-between, and I lean STRONGLY towards great. Not the “next AP”, because he’s a different kind of runner, but his ceiling is limitless. GREAT receiver out of the backfield, too. Just wait until you see the many ways Shurmer will utilize his talents to better the whole team. He has an extra gear to the corner that’s truly elite, and you can’t arm tackle him between the tackles, either. He had the most Yards After Contact in Div. 1 BY A MILE. I think he’s a FUCKING BEAST that other teams will have to game-plan for, which will free up the Vike’s other new offensive weapons (Murray, Floyd, Hodges) dramatically. This guy is the real deal. AP is done, as you’ll see this year in NO. Cook will be a TOP 3 NFL RB within 2 years, and probably a perennial Pro-Bowler.

          But my favorite draftee (I was dancing and screaming when they said his name at the draft), is Pat Elflein. This guy will anchor the Vike’s OL for many years at a Pro Bowl level. He’s a natural leader and was without question the best center in college football last year. He was ELECTED Captain at Ohio State (a high honor, ESPECIALLY at a school like OS that has LOTS of great future NFL players) by his teammates, and the guy LIVES for football. His training regimen (self-imposed) is brutal, he LIVES in the weight room, his core strength is NFL-caliber right now, and his WORK ETHIC cannot be questioned. OS coaches had to reel him in because they were afraid he’d hurt himself. And he was a 4 year, state-championship level wrestler in HS (as was Zimmer, whose Dad coached him), which OL coaches LOVE. He understands leverage, foot position, weight transfer, agility, toughness, balance, coordination, and lateral movement, keeping his man in front of him, and using his hands, and he uses those wrestling skills to his advantage on the football field. Not to mention that wrestlers must endure physical discomfort and pain at a level FAR exceeding other sports. He pushes himself to get better relentlessly, and that transfers to the whole team, certainly to the entire OL. You want leadership qualities? THIS IS YOUR GUY. I’m OVERJOYED the Vikings got this kid, whom they had up for a visit and VERY MUCH wanted. Pocic is overrated, so good luck making him a left tackle, Seattle. Elflein is a better player by any metric.

          I expect Jaleel Johnson to make an immediate contribution, too. His best position, given his size, strength and explosiveness, is at 3-technique, a position that left much to be desired on last year’s team. I’m done with Sharrif, and I think he’s done as an NFL player. His last surgery left him with nerve damage in his knee, though not as much as Bridgewater, and nerve regeneration is extremely rare and almost impossible to rehab. Johnson’s tape is impressive. His explosive burst off the snap and ability to knife into the backfield are NFL-level right now. Next to Linval, with Hunter and Griffen outside, he’s going to give many NFL OL coaches headaches and lost sleep.

          The Vikes accomplished everything they said they would this off-season, and more. They played the FA market perfectly and had an OUTSTANDING draft, despite the lack of a first round pick. I see 11-5, maybe even 12-4 if they play to full potential. Oh, and one more thing: FUCK THE PACKERS!

          SKOL!

          • Lmmfao…..you’ve obviously gave yourself a fk’ing concussion beating your head against a table and/or wall to many times.
            You’re just a incoherent babbling baffoon.
            And did your “relative” also stay at a Holiday Inn last night ??…..I could care less what some keyboard warrior babbles on about, especially since I don’t believe a word you say about your “relative” being some kind of doctor, or what this “relative” has to say about Teddy’s prognosis. I’ll stick to waiting until a OFFICIAL word from the VIKINGS is released.
            Until then me, and many Vikings fans will keep on doubting Statue Sammy, and you can keep on doing whatever it is that you call what you’re doing.
            Now move along slug, I’ve already wasted enough of my precious time on some little butt hurt snowflake like you.
            SKOL & GFY !!!!!!

          • Gordon Guffey

            I totally agree “”” No Patience for Idiots “””

            PS some of these posts are at least good for passing the time ~ Keep that strong sound mind of yours friend ~ Far more reports out there about this type of belief about Bradford and polls in the local press that show the vast majority feel the same way ~

            Lunchbreak: Brooks Believes Sam Bradford Poised for Career Year
            Posted 7 hours ago
            Lindsey Young
            Assistant Editor & Staff Writer
            http://www.vikings.com/news/lunch-break/article-1/Lunchbreak-Brooks-Believes-Sam-Bradford-Poised-for-Career-Year/7695e88d-383a-4ca7-9e8f-eed56a7a62b3

          • BT

            Gordon how many of those polls did you vote 100 times???
            Face it Sam Bradford has done nothing his entire career to justify believing in him. As a Vikings fan first I hope he has success but reality of seeing him last year has shown me what others have seen his whole pro career. He can put a team on his shoulders and win the game even get an important first down the majority of time.
            I’m sorry but he sucks!
            and no matter what we do at 30yrs old he isn’t going to magically Change who he is!

          • Gordon Guffey

            BT you know as well as I do that the polls lock your internet IP number so you can only vote once ~ Come on man get real ~

            Fact is BT Bradford has never played on a good team and that followed him to Minn. due to all of the injuries to the OL and the fact that Diggs missed 3 games and played at less that 100% for half of the season ~ Oh did I include that AP missed most of the season once again ~ Or that the Vikings OC at the start of the season got fired after the 7th game ~ Kind of Hard for the new guy to install his offense at the mid season point ~ And while Bradford might have been able to hit the ground running because he had played for the new OC in the past the rest of the team couldn’t ~

            Nor did you say anything about Bradford’s first 5 or 6 season in the NFL that he was playing for a very bad Rams team who happened to be coached Jeff Fisher who set the record for most loses ever by a NFL head coach ~ Ever ~

            I do enjoy our chats though ~ It keep time moving at one of the slowest point of the offseason ~ Smile Face 🙂

          • No Patience for Idiots

            You seem really GREAT at slinging moronic and irrelevant insults, but not at addressing ANY of the substantive (I know that’s a big word for you; look it up after you get out of 6th grade for the day) issues I raised outside of hating “Slingin’ Sammy” (yeah, like HOFer Sammy Baugh). Oh, and my uncle isn’t “some kind of doctor”, BTW. He’s the Chief of Orthopedic Surgery and Sports Medicine at a major NE Hospital, so I think he knows a bit more about the specifics of Teddy’s injury than…..you. You wait for that “OFFICIAL word from the VIKINGS”. After all, no NFL team has EVER lied, spun or twisted the truth over their injury reports, right?

            Did you ever even play football, at ANY level? I did. Wrestle? I did. Coach (HS)? I did. I’m sure your time is VERY precious. Homework is hard, and reading comic books probably taxes your tiny little brain to the max. Tell you what: I’ve got a hundred bucks that says Bridgewater NEVER again gets on an NFL field in uniform. And that Bradford has an outstanding season now that he has some real weapons and isn’t running for his life. Wanna put your money where your big fat uneducated mouth is? I doubt it.

          • Every word you hysterically type is nothing but lies, lol, you’re a delusional little mattress stain.
            I don’t believe for 1 second a word you say.
            Ex-player lmmfao
            Coach lmmfao…..you couldn’t coach a fk’ing retard to pick it’s nose.

      • Travis Miller

        Lets not forget, bradford got us the first down the play before….it was negated because patterson still couldnt figure out how to line up and got us a penalty

        • Gordon Guffey

          Totally true Travis but some fans just want to see things their way no matter what the facts may show ~

      • Gordon Guffey

        We will have to agree to disagree on this one BT ~ We remember that Lions game much different ~ If not Bradford than they need to start planing to move up the draft for a better talent than Bridgewater if he even capable of coming back ~ Maybe its just me be but its not if you go by the polls done in the local press on who the fans want at QB be it Bradord or Bridgewater ~ Its Bradford by far ~

        BT you said ::: So take that completion % and shove it up you pie hole!!!!!! Really ~ Really ~ When is the only time I have replied back to you in such a way ~ ((( NEVER ~ ))) LOL you make me laugh every time you post crazy stuff ~ Keep them coming please ~ Sounds like you are getting your agenda feeling hurt ~ Prove me wrong my friend ~ You have never seen me get my feeling hurt by something you posted ~

        I do agree Rhodes should be the first to get paid though ~ And paid well ~ But not out of this world crazy money ~ If he is asking for the bank time to play him in 2017 and the tag and trade him in 2018 ~

        • Gordon Guffey

          BT there are far more stories like this out there and polls showing where fans feel the same way than some of the crazy ((( crazy funny smile face 🙂 ))) things you keep preaching ~ Bottom like is we want know unit the end of the year ~ If I’m wrong I will be here to eat my share of poo pie ~ Will you ~ Smile face 🙂

          Lunchbreak: Brooks Believes Sam Bradford Poised for Career Year

          Posted 7 hours ago

          Lindsey Young

          Assistant Editor & Staff Writer
          http://www.vikings.com/news/lunch-break/article-1/Lunchbreak-Brooks-Believes-Sam-Bradford-Poised-for-Career-Year/7695e88d-383a-4ca7-9e8f-eed56a7a62b3

          • BT

            The problem is the Vikings still have that conservative passing game featuring checkdown king Sam Bradford, and the jury is still out on a revamped offensive line that is likely to employ more zone-blocking principles in 2017.

            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2709057-nfl-rookies-thrust-into-the-toughest-situations

          • Gordon Guffey

            BT you dont have a clue about what the Vikings have or if there will be as many check down passes as their were last season ~ Fact is none of do ~ Why because ((( WE ))) dont have any facts on what kind of scheme Shurmur will run ~ We dont know what kind of blocking sheme he and Sparano will use ~ We dont know what kind of player Michael Floyd will be at the #3 WR ~ We dont know what kind of RB Murray will be after almost reaching 1000 yards last year on a bad ankle that required surgery ~ We dont know how well the OL will pass or run block ~ We dont know if Thielen can repeat his numbers from last year or if he will surpass them ~ I happen to believe he will surpass them ~ We dont know if Diggs can stay healthy for 16 plus games if the Vikings make the playoffs ~ I happen to believe they will ~

            The other thing we dont know is how the mostly new offensive staff will use players including Bradford and if they will be better ~ I happen to believe any ((( sadly but true you or me or anyone else who posts here would be better than Norv and Scott Tuner LOL ))) so BT there are so many thing we dont know about that there is no way you could know for sure that Bradford will be a dink and dunk kind of QB or not ~ We dont know if those were the plays called by the OC ~ The only thing we know for sure is what a mess the OL was last year and the Vikings had no running game and little time to pass the ball ~ All of your fussing is about things you could not know at this time ~ And last I check we dont work for any college or NFL team and my guess is there is a good reason for that too ~ LOL

            Oh and I have no idea why you added a link to “”” NFL Rookies Thrust into the Toughest Situations “”” ???? And from Bleach Report of all places ~ Really ~ So you found one site that agree with your view ~ There are far more that dont and I post the links here all of the time ~ If you follow the polls in the local Minn. sport pages ((( when they have them and feel free to research them ))) you will find most fans don’t agree with you view either ~

            You have to give me more before you could ever start to make me think differently ~ I worry about you in the sense that I almost feel like you would pull for the Vikings to have a losing season just so you can be right about Bradford ~ You have a real hate for him ~ I’m guessing you fear he will replace Teddy ~ See thats were we are different ~ I dont care who is starting where as long as the Vikings are winning and thats the bottom line ~ If its Bradford then good ~ If its Teddy then good ~ Just as long as the Vikings are winning ~ ((( PS I dont think Teddy will ever make it back to playing as well as he was before the injury ~ However I’m not pulling for that to be the case just so Bradford remains the starter ))) <<< And there is the difference between you and me ~

            Lastly the Vikings lost 6 games by 7 points or less which goes to show the Bleach Report doesn't have a clue about what they post ~ And those 2 last INT's you keep going on about was because the defense gave up a late score and the Vikings had no chose but to throw the ball ~ And YOU know as well as everyone else that when a defense knows whats coming they drop 8 men in coverage ~ WE also know when a defense doesn't fear your running game they drop 8 me into coverage !!! ~ And to think Bradford only threw 5 INT's facing those odds behind a very poor playing OL ~ In the end I have no clue what you are fussing about when you and I know as much about what went on last year and what might happen this year ~ Not clue my friend ~

          • Gordon Guffey

            Here is one for you BT ~

            Lunchbreak: Bradford, Murray, Cook Make NFLPA’s ‘Rising 50’ List ~ Player ready for breakout seasons ~

            Posted 4 hours ago

            Lindsey Young

            Assistant Editor & Staff Writer
            http://www.vikings.com/news/lunch-break/article-1/Lunchbreak-Bradford-Murray-Cook-Make-NFLPAs-Rising-50-List/ee78f61a-047e-4dc9-9839-67422b506165

        • hugh mann

          Stay classy, Gordon. Thumbs up!

          • Gordon Guffey

            I do my best but BT is a real challenge ~ Isn’t that right BT ~ Smile Face 🙂
            Thanks for the thumbs up hugh mann ~!!!!

        • Travis Miller

          Couple things here BT…1.) You trying to tell me no other offense has had to resort to dink and dunk or check downs in the past? Many have… so if your logic is correct that completions percentage record should have been easy to break. But, even though there have been many documented dink and dunk offenses no one broke it…bradford did. Its not a stellar record but still an accomplishment. 2.) After seeing what teams gave up for mediocre prospects in this years draft, the trade for bradford was legit. Look at it this way. If bradford (as he is now) was in this years draft class he would have been the #1 pick hands down and it would have taken more than a 1st and a 4th to get him.

          • Gordon Guffey

            Tell it like it is Travis ~ The truth will set us free ~

            Great reply ~ !

  • Peter Ruel

    I believe our defense will be very solid again this year. My only question on that side of the ball is at the least linebacker spot and a third safety. We are in great shape with our corners. I think Waynes will continue his development, and with Zimm, Rhodes and Newman’s help, he will become another shut down corner. Alexander is a bit of a question mark but we have enough depth to take some of the pressure off. And I trust Zimm on that side of the ball.

    I was hoping that this year our offense would add some play makers and an improved line to be able to stay on the field. It looks like we have done that. I think our draft was key in this. Cook and Hodges have excellent play making ability. I hope they are able to develop to meet their potential.

    I was not and am not worried about the wide receiver position. I felt we had several players that could make an impact that were not playing both on our practice squad and in the depth chart. Floyd concerns me with his off field issues (as does Cook) but it is my hope that the discipline the Vikings seem to have can help him to get clean and stay out of trouble.

    The O-Line is still a bit of a question but it hard to see where it is not improved. We truly can not be as bad as last year. When watching highlight of Thielen, Rudolph and Diggs from last year if Sam had a three “Mississippi count” he was deadly accurate and Adam, Kyle or Stephan found a way to get open. This was without a running game threat. So if the O-line can provide that time and a one or two additional seconds for down the field passes we will be in good shape. They are touted as good run blockers so we should be improved there as well.

    Most important here is for our offense to stay on the field and be productive. This will greatly improve our defense who all but carried us. If they get more rest and have to play less their stats and play will improve. The more they had to be on the field the more opportunity other teams had to find a weakness or to “get lucky”.

    I am looking forward to a very good year.

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  • David Prestin

    With no 1st rounder in this yrs draft, the Vikings did an awesome job taking care of pretty much all they needed to. A-

    • Chuck Abbuhl

      Their 1st rounder was Sam Bradford.

      • Jan Rootham

        You’re right and I’ve been waiting all year for the draft experts to list our 1st round draft pick to include Sam. I consider him a nice first round draft pick we got to use a year earlier than most.

        • Chuck Abbuhl

          He’s better than any QB coming out this year.

  • Steve Jensen

    Definitely give the Vikes an A for their off season moves. Many so called experts were very critical of the Reiff and Remmers signings but those needed to happen. Reiff was the 2nd best LT available behind Whitworth and Remmers was the 3rd best RT available so they did what they had to do even though they over spent. People who are critical under estimate how historically bad our OL was last year. The Vikes essentially played all of last season with Asiata and McKinnon as our RBs. Going from that mighty combo to a Cook-Murray-McKinnon stable is a HUGE improvement. Their red zone efficiency is likely to be much better this year between the OL upgrades and the RB improvement they also added 2 major red zone threats in Michael Floyd (6′ 3″) and Bucky Hodges (6′ 6″) not to mention the fact the Treadwell (6′ 2″) is more likely to be in the mix this year. That gives Bradford some serious size and catching radius near the end zone. I also like the Dantone Jones signing and the drafting of Jaleel Johnson and Ben Gideon. Jones was miscast from day 1 in Green Bay. He was a stud at UCLA as DE-DT and they tried to conver him to OLB. He’s a 4-3 DL all day and has a lot of talent that Zimmer will like working with. Gideon is a poor mans Greenway. Stud against the run and on special teams and eats/sleeps/drinks football much like Pat Elflein. Seems like the Vikes did a good job of drafting not only the best players available at the time they picked but brought in guys that were team captains and love football. That’s a good combo.

    • TN vfan

      I was hoping we would move more towards being a passing offense , but every move was leaned toward improving the running game. Bradford has an injury problem. He has played as many games injured as he has missed(ankle, hand, thumb). When healthy he is above average, he is not Brady or Rogers. Teddy may have the potential to be better, but he certainly hasn’t shown it yet. Bradford played better with less. Is he the long term answer? not if he keeps getting hurt as in the past. It will take years to upgrade the offence across the board to be at the top of the league. Lets look forward to a dominate defense and an improved running game.

  • badzeitgeist

    Just because we didn’t take another OT in the draft doesn’t mean we didn’t address that position: don’t count Aviante Collins out just yet. As UDFAs go, that was a great get.

    • Matthew

      Agreed! Collins is a real good get.

  • Odin1984

    A minus for me ; Very solid off season
    the only thing that bother me is that there’s not viable option if we loose Reiff.
    Newman can handle the nickel spot too if Alexander is in trouble .
    Really like the toughness of the new offensive lineman (Reiff, Remmers and Elflein who could be our center for more than a decade )
    Okay CP was unbelievable on kickoff but the rules have changed the strategy on returns
    And the addition of the so special RB Dalvin Cook is so unreal and he could be our masterpiece sooner than later
    Skol Vikings !!!!

    • Andrew Stead

      True, but LT is like QB, no-one has a viable alternative. A good swing tackle can handle the rest of one game and maybe the next week, but that’s it. Reiff has been healthy historically, that’s all you can hope for. I would have preferred Whitworth, like everyone else, but along with a higher ceiling would have been a lower floor. Everybody gets old, breaks down and gets bad eventually. Reiff and Remmers weren’t overpays, they were the market price in 2017.

      I don’t understand anyone even mentioning the Captain. Nice player for us, but a well run team is not resigning a 30 year old UFA to play nickel. He’s replaced with someone younger. Ditto a 4th WR who is great on ST. Good teams don’t pay 2nd contracts for that, they draft the next guy to do it.

      Before we bury Bradford, can we see him get a whole offseason, have (a vast improvement to) mediocre blocking, and good weapons? We don’t have enough information yet. BT–the plan was Teddy, and sadly he’s not playing again. Would anyone trade Bradford for a rookie in this year’s class? For Glennon or anyone else that was available? It would be nice to have Luck or Rodgers, but they weren’t on the menu.

      • cka2nd

        If they hadn’t drafted Alexander last year, I’d be MUCH more vocal about not re-signing Munnerlyn than I have been, or have you forgotten the first year post-Antoine Winfield already?

    • Steve Jensen

      Between draft project tackles TJ Clemmings, Willie Beavers and this years #1 un drafted free agent Aviant Collins (rated as a 3rd rounder by Kiper) the Vikings have 3 potential options for the back up left tackle spot. It’s not like all times have a starting caliber left tackle as a back up, no one does. The Vikings are better off than most. Jeremiah Sirles actually played well when plugged in at RT over the last 2 years ( and guard for that matter). I think they have significantly upgraded their OL. I would love to see Danny Isodora come in and win the starting RG spot, he definitely has the talent/strength to do so. Then you have guys like Berger, Sirles, Clemmings as back ups who have all started at multiple positions in the past.

      • Odin1984

        Berger is just too good to be only a back up
        If Elflein is ready right now ( and i hope he is) to be the starter at center , Berger will play at RG and our running game will improve a lot with him in that spot
        I can agree for Sirles who is a solid back up at RT or even OG

  • styx rogan

    6-10 type season

    • SKOL

      In a mirror maybe…. 10-6, 11-5 type season. Defense is great and we upgraded the offense. I enjoy being the dark horse though keep on shitting on us please.
      SKOL VIKINGS
      P.S WE DON’T ALLOW BANDWAGON JUMPERS AT ALL …. AND FUCK THE PACKERS

      • Teddysonfire2016

        Yes!

      • cdr164bn

        I’m not as high on this defense as you are. They kept us in some games but I think they are in part responsible for some of the losses after the 6-0 start. They were flat in some games and outright defied Zim in the Green Bay game. They went their own way? What the hell was that about. Jordy Nelson gets over a hundred yards in the first half because the dbacks believed they could cover him with THEIR plan?? Nope, not buying it that the defense is set. I still think we need a middle linebacker of pro bowl quality before the defense really is a shut down defense.

        • SKOL

          I agree with your assessment of the Packer debacle but the defense definitely is not a liability. Kendrick is a beast and getting better at MLB. we need to fill Chads LB position but I have faith on guys already on the team. The biggest knock on our D was our O line 40 mins on the field will run u down

          • NJR

            Ideally we would get a true MLB to replace Greenway. I think playing OLB would really show the type of beast Kendricks is. Granted 3 LBs rarely play together now but when they do.

          • cdr164bn

            I believe the Plan was Kendricks moving to weak side when we found a thumper for the middle. We haven’t found one who can cover yet. I also remember Barr going AWOL for the last half of the season.

          • SKOL

            I can go for that I can see how that would be a good plan as far as barr going AWOL he was hurt all year I’m not making an excuse for him but he was playing hurt

        • Gordon Guffey

          I believe Zimmer missing time and dealing with his eye had a lot to do with this ~ And who could blame him ~ Not many coaches go through something so extreme and it not effect their team no matter what level they are coaching at ~ He wasn’t focused nor was the team ~

  • Sly Bly

    I’m happy with what they have done in the offseason. I think a few more moves need to happen, but there is still time, and there will be several other veterans available between now and the beginning of the season. I would like to see them add another veteran swing lineman that could back up at LT if Reiff gets hurt. I like Sirles on the right side in relief but not Clemmings at LT. I would also like to see them add a veteran CB or S. Would be nice to find one that could do both in a pinch. Robey was the perfect fit. Not sure why they didn’t grab him. So OL and DB veteran pickups would make this a fantastic offseason. Let’s hope for the best!

    • linus

      “Robey was the perfect fit. Not sure why they didn’t grab him.” If he was, they would have, and he only weighs 160 lbs.

      • cka2nd

        You have more faith in the infallibility of Spielman and Zimmer than I do. One would think that going into last seaslon with Matt Kalil and Andre Smith as our starting offensive tackles would have cleared up that notion once and for all, and I say that as a supporter of the current regime.

        • linus

          Correction: I have more faith in Spielman and Zimmer than I do in anyone commenting on these articles.

  • linus

    Not sure why Coller keeps insisting that CB is such a trouble spot. Rhodes is as good as anyone in the league, Newman was top 5 last year by some analyses, and Waynes was good enough to split time with Newman toward the end of the season. So that’s three players who should be at least capable starters, when most teams have trouble finding even two, and they have a talented second-year guy backing them up. Of course injuries are a concern (as they are for every team at every position), and we’d all love to have All Pros backing up Hall of Famers at every spot, but it ain’t gonna happen.

    • Matthew

      Nickle cb – it is not the same position. It takes a really quick dude, amazing footwork, toughness to provide lb like qualities. 3 receiver sets are common, munnerlyn leaving is most likely the biggest hole right now. So it’s Alexander or someone else (wondering if Jabari price got his head on straight yet.. vikes still have him on roster)

      • linus

        It’s Alexander or Newman… and Newman has done it often enough to show that he can handle the job.

        • cka2nd

          I’m not really worried about CB, but at his age, one can’t count on Newman having another career year like he did last year, and even if Waynes is now starting material – and I tend to think he is – you can’t really expect him to be as good as Newman was last year either. Still, Alexander in the slot is the real question. I tend to trust his confidence and the coaches will have him ready and raring to go, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to bank on it.

  • Nate

    I give them a B+ overall. I would give them an A-, but letting go off a stud nickle like the Cap’n was a little hard to choke down. I believe Mack Alexander needs another year or two to slowly get his feet wet, but hopefully our plethora of CB talent will be enough (Rhodes, Newman and Waynes) to help Alexander shoulder this load.

    Overall, I thought we did a great job at improving where we needed to improve. Our defense is solid after loading up on several enticing D lineman prospects (Jaleel and Adams), keeping our stud secondary intact (except for the aforementioned lost of Cap’n my Cap’n) and we have, in my opinion, the second best linebacker tandem in the league to pair with numerous electric options at our third linebacking spot (Brothers, Lee, Robinson and Gideon are my faves, but I hope Brothers gets the job).

    And then there’s the offense…
    I think the last two years have helped me realize what all the analysts have been saying all these years. The game is indeed won in the trenches, and our O line seems to have hoisted a white flag just about every game the last two years. I think this is a result of our spectacular GM having one weak spot in the draft- O line. I don’t think we have produced one successful lineman since Slick Rick started (i.e. Kalil, Clemmings, and Beavers are all that come to mind). However, our team seems to have put the money on the line (pun intended). We spent hug on mediocre/slightly above mediocre tacklers) which was completely necessary. This year was awful in the draft for O lineman, free agency seemed decent with plenty of aging options, but the Vikings have tried the old quick patch fix the past year and it failed…miserably. No more one year prove it deals for washed up tackles. Instead, the Vikings gave a lot of money away to players with little injury history, and to contracts that don’t guarantee much beyond 2017 so easy to cut if they start to decline. I think the Vikings got too much heat for these signings. Again, they were necessary to improve possibly the worst O line to ever play for the Vikings.
    We then go and ball out and get one of the ONLY decent O line draftees this year, Elflein. I may gush too much over this guy, but I believe he will be the anchor this team has almost always had at center. To go from Birk to Sullivan wasn’t even fair. I forgot what it was like to have poor interior lineman play for the Vikings. Berger did a fine job considering his experience and his surrounding cast and I think Boone is overrated. I love the physical play style Boone brings and the guy is hilarious to listen too. But i remember watching too many goal line appearances where his tall frame seemed to crumble against 320lb behemoths keeping our RB’s from crossing the goal line (and too many 3rd and 1’s to count). With Elflein in the mix, I think this will only add to a new nasty O line mentality. The dude doesn’t give up, is smarter than most lineman and has the competitive edge necessary to make up for what he lacks physically. I’m excited to see how this group does, but the depth is concerning for me. We hit the injury bug again and it all comes tumbling down. But hopefully we are now young enough to hold that bug at bay.

    WR’s improved with the addition of Floyd. It says something to how well/poorly Treadwell is progressing, but hopefully the competition drives him to success. I doubt it though, still fuming over that pick. All we talked about last draft was how we were in perfect position to pick the best player available and then we pick Treadwell?? That was a postion of need and there was a reason 3 WR’s were selected before him. Treadwell rant over…could’ve had Michael Thomas, ok now it’s over). CP was on his way out two years ago and I’m ok with that. Yes, his return presence will be missed, but I wont miss an overly gody contract for who amounts to a mere gadget player. Personally, I would love to see Diggs at KR/PR. He is unbelievable as a returner if you’ve watched his tape, but with his slight frame and importance as a WR, I don’t see the coaches allowing that. Coley can maybe help replace CP on returns. TE’s are still solid. I really liked Morgan from last year, but I hope his injury doesn’t drag his career down. Hodges has a lot of work to do but his measurables are exciting (6’6″ and 4.50 40yd dash). Rudolph can continue to hold down the fort.

    RB- WE DID IT!! WE FINALLY GOT A RUNNING GAME TO SUIT OUR OFFENSE!!!
    For all you AP lovers, maybe don’t read the next few lines. Was he amazing at getting records and playing his heart out?? Yes. Did he give an identity to an otherwise nameless franchise?? Yes indeed. Did he fumble when the big game was on the line?? The ones that mattered, oh yeah, you better believe it. Fumbles the ball to help give the Seahawks back the lead in 2015, and fumbles THREE times in the NFC confernece game against those dim witted, wart infested, dickless, brainless, classless things called the SAINTS…of all team names, they should really think about changing theirs. AP was great, but he also cost this franchise the opportunity of being relevant by needing a salary that paid him more than double of most (if not all) other RB’s. Then the SOB goes and signs with the team who shall not be named (again) and at a measly $7 mil over two years. Had he accepted that kind of money with us, or even averaged 7mil per season (like he deserved) then maybe he would have a few SB rings to boast. Can’t get a quality QB when you’re paying your RB like a QB.
    But onto bigger and better things. We now have a great complement RB with Murray (our downfield inbetween tackler runner) and Cook (our side to side, ideal shotgun runner). They can both catch passes, and then we have McKinnon who is icing on the cake. I sure hope Cook doesn’t flop, but even if he does our RB backfiled is still better than what we had to deal with last year. I don’t think people understand how important this is for Sam Bradfords development on this Vikings team. We were one dimensional last year. No running game makes the field open up a WHOLE lot less. Now, teams should have to at least consider the running game when playing the Vikings and have to worry about not one, not two, but three RB’s that have all done well in the passing game in the past. Put Bradford in shotgun with any combo of those 3 RB’s and teams are going to have headaches with who will stay and block, will both RB’s go out for those short passes Sam Bradford throws so well, or will the Vikings just run the ball??

    Now, speaking of those short passess Bradford is so adapt at throwing. I find it hilarious that some Vikings fans expect Bradford to throw the ball deep 20 times a game when his WR’s can’t even run 20yds before Bradford is on the ground. The rare occasions Bradford did go deep, he seemed to be spot on almost every time. I could be wrong, but I would expect to see the number of completed deep throws on our offense to go way up this year under Bradford. If the O line can meet its moderate expectations and our RB’s are as good as I’m hoping they will be, the sky will be the limit for this team. But hey, it’s the offseason. This kind of speculation is what makes the offseason fun, or even bearable. Here’s to another year watching Vikings fball. Hopefully the season will end in Feb where the Vikings begin the season in Sept. #SKOL

  • FL Viking

    Let me provide an opposing argument to all of you Vikings fans that don’t think Sam Bradford is a good starting QB.

    FACT: Sam Bradford’s shown more arm talent and accuracy than Teddy Bridgewater ever did in his young career. Anyone remember all the long passes that Bridgewater threw to wide open receivers that were no where close enough to be called accurate? If not, go watch the games from 2015.

    FACT: Bradford stayed healthy last year (his career criticism) behind a horrible offensive line. He fought and came back in to finish games after he was knocked out of them twice last season.

    FACT: Listed below are the Vikings starting QB’s for the 10 years before Sam Bradford.

    2006 – Brad Johnson / Tarvaris Jackson
    2007 – Tarvaris Jackson / Kelly Holcomb / Brooks Bollinger
    2008 – Gus Frerotte / Tarvaris Jackson
    2009 – Brett Favre
    2010 – Brett Favre / Tarvaris Jackson / Joe Webb
    2011 – Christian Ponder / Donovan McNabb
    2012 – Christian Ponder
    2013 – Christian Ponder / Matt Cassel / Josh Freeman
    2014 – Teddy Bridgewater / Matt Cassel / Christian Ponder
    2015 – Teddy Bridgewater

    All of you that want to complain about “dink and dunk” Sam Bradford, please don’t forget about past Vikings QB’s. How many years did we watch Tarvaris Jackson, Christian Ponder, and others not be able to throw simple routine passes! Sam Bradford set an NFL record last season for doing what a starter is supposed to be able to do. Complete the simple routine passes routinely. How many of you would like to go back and have Brett Favre complete that simple routine pass to Bernard Berrian at the sideline instead of try to throw back across his body to Sidney Rice in the 2009 NFC Championship game? Yep, I had to go there.

    Is Sam Bradford a Hall of Fame QB? Respectfully to Sam, I don’t think so. I think it’s a little too late in his career to make up for what has transpired to this point. However, he just set an NFL record in completion % and this Vikings team (with a revamped offensive line, more offensive weapons, and Zimmer’s defense) might just be the one to let him have a stellar 2nd half of his career.

    Memo to Vikings Fans: Sam Bradford is in the prime of his NFL career right now. He is by far the best starter we’ve had for the Vikings since 2009. We need to get behind this QB and cheer for him as he tries to lead our Vikings to a Super Bowl championship! SKOL Vikings!

    • David Prestin

      No need to tell me…..I wanted him the yr we drafted teddy when it was rumored the Vikings we’re going to trade for him. Never happened but glad we have him now.

    • God’s Favorite

      In all fairness, you are blinded by you Sam love. Go back and watch the games. Early in almost every game, Sam misses a wide open WR streaking down the field. I can excuse Teddy in year 2 for that. Sam cannot get a pass. Also, Sam can only give you what is there. He is unable to make a play greater than what the defense gives him. I’m not talking about running with his legs. I’m talking about moving up in the pocket or buying time to get the ball off. We will never win a Super Bowl with Sam. We will sooner win it with Bridge. I’ve seen him put this team on his back 9 times and win us a game. I Sam him do it in Seattle his last game as well. The kid is a gamer and keeps his eyes down field.

      • Chuck Abbuhl

        You’ve seen Bridgewater put the team on his back 9 times, what are you smoking or what Vikings games you were watching, but he’s never done that or has he come close to being able to do that. That is why Vikings fans were clamoring for him to be replaced. Oh and by the way “Bridge” may never be back, thank goodness, he’s nothing more than a career backup.

        • God’s Favorite

          Bridge has 9 career game winning drives. 10 if you count the Seattle game. I could name each game but lets talk about the Seattle game. Drove his team down the field against the best scoring defense that season and the Previous NFC Superbowl team. If not for Walsh, he wins that game. Bridge is a superiour Qb to Sam. At this points in their career its close. Given his youth, Bridge will surpass him eventually.

          • Chuck Abbuhl

            I see you are still smoking the good stuff. Why bring up the Seattle game as an example of a game winning drive when the Vikings lost. Yes Walsh missed the FG but they didn’t win they lost. You brought up that almost win because he hasn’t done it before, he can’t. And talk about dink and dunk, TB can’t throw deep without the ball fluttering like a wounded duck, good God.

          • God’s Favorite

            vault/videos/Highlights-From-Teddys-Game-Winning-Drive/cb7fd5ff-ce9b-4df7-9b3c-dbacbe7064ad

          • God’s Favorite

            You should shut up!

          • Chuck Abbuhl

            NICE comeback, can’t prove you’re point then use the old “You need to shut up” well you need to stop talking BS. Go ahead have another toke, it’ll help your anger issues. TB is and never was anything more than a backup pretending to be a starter.

          • Josh Tschida

            I’m with Chuck here Bridgewater can’t land a deep pass if his life depends on it.. and you say Sam missed early in the season? He came to the team before week one… trying to learn everyones speed isn’t the easiest of things there bud. Mind you watch how he picked apart the packers after being on the team for 2 weeks. But you right Teddy is a god… who cant get the ball in the endzone in the playoffs to win a game n leaves it on the foot of a kicker! way to be a leader teddy boy!

          • God’s Favorite

            I never actually said he missed early in the season what I said was he missed all season long. After we were 5 and no and almost every one of the next five games or so he missed a game altering touchdown. We your bitchin Teddy for not getting the ball in the endzone doing a playoff game and praising Sam despite the fact that he didn’t even make the playoffs? I swear we have the dumbest fan base of all time.

          • Josh Tschida

            Couldn’t agree more about dumbest fan base as you are praising a man for his game winning drive in a lose. Totally makes sense. Teddy can’t throw a deep ball to save his life. We would have been better drafting anyone over him including Manziel

          • God’s Favorite

            I praised the fact that he made playoffs. Something Sam didnt. He has more wins than Bortles and had more than Carr. Please stop talking.

          • Josh Tschida

            Wins? Of the three mentioned Teddy actually had a defense. He was asked to literally do nothing. The Defense was ranked 3rd in scoring.. While Adrian lead the league in rushing yards. Teddy will never be in same conversation with Carr again unless it is “How the Vikings ruined their franchise trading up to take Teddy instead of Carr”

          • God’s Favorite

            Teddy also had more wins his rookie season with no Ap and an average defense. Keep trying to explain shit away.

          • Chuck Abbuhl

            That’s what you keep trying to do, explain sh*t away.

          • Josh Tschida

            Vikings ranked 11th in points against while Jags were 26th and Oakland was 32nd (dead last) in 2014… weird once again bud.. 14td’s and 12int’s yeah such an excellent year by the allstar Teddy in 2014.. Idk why Bortles is in the conversation anyways being he was 3rd overall pick .. we couldn’t get him. Where as the 2nd rounders taken (Carr, Garoppolo) will be and already are head and shoulders above Teddy.

          • God’s Favorite

            I noticed that you ignored the stats that I provided beneath that response that shows his game winning drives. I believe he had four game-winning drives his rookie season. He also had the best quarterback rating in the final two minutes of games during his sophomore season. This shows that he plays hit at his best when the game is on the line. Unlike Sam who completely f***** up in Detroit

          • Chuck Abbuhl

            I’m sorry to burst your bubble but this “articles/2253559-fourth-quarter-heroics-from-teddy-bridgewater-lead-vikings-to-another-late-win” is nothng, no info , no link to another site, it’s nothing. You still haven’t proven anything. His rookie season all he did was hand off to AP. TB is a backup nothing more.

          • Chuck Abbuhl

            OK God’s Favorite, you say TB had 4 game winning drives his rookie year let me check. I define game winning drive as the last drive of the game. The Vikings won 4 close games in 2014, of those 4 games in 1 of them there were 3 series played and in another there were 4 series played after the Vikings their last points scored not exactly last second. In another game the winning points were scored by a fumble return by the defense for 6 points, had nothing to do with TB. In the 4th game yes the Vikings scored late but it was a short pass to J.Wright which he took to the house not TB with a long bomb to win the game. Sorry you are just wrong. Don’t believe me look it up.

          • God’s Favorite

            Lol. Teddy didnt play with AP his rookie season.

          • Chuck Abbuhl

            OMG, you got ONE point correct and I didn’t. ( they did play one game ) I’m so crushed.

          • God’s Favorite

            articles/2253559-fourth-quarter-heroics-from-teddy-bridgewater-lead-vikings-to-another-late-win

  • cdr164bn

    There’s still a pretty good chance players will be cut or let go that could help the Vikes. There will be lots of cuts coming in the next few months and some of them will be a numbers game deal. Some will be traded instead of cut because of value so we still have time.

  • patrick

    re: nickel corner….

    I bet Waynes and Rhodes start on the outside, and Newman starts as the nickel corner, while Alexander ramps up playing time slowly…

  • Nate

    I give them a B+ overall. I would give them an A-, but letting go off a stud nickle like the Cap’n was a little hard to choke down. I believe Mack Alexander needs another year or two to slowly get his feet wet, but hopefully our plethora of CB talent will be enough (Rhodes, Newman and Waynes) to help Alexander shoulder this load.

    Overall, I thought we did a great job at improving where we needed to improve. Our defense is solid after loading up on several enticing D lineman prospects (Jaleel and Adams), keeping our stud secondary intact (except for the aforementioned lost of Cap’n my Cap’n) and we have, in my opinion, the second best linebacker tandem in the league to pair with numerous electric options at our third linebacking spot (Brothers, Lee, Robinson and Gideon are my faves, but I hope Brothers gets the job).

    And then there’s the offense…
    I think the last two years have helped me realize what all the analysts have been saying all these years. The game is indeed won in the trenches, and our O line seems to have hoisted a white flag just about every game the last two years. I think this is a result of our spectacular GM having one weak spot in the draft- O line. I don’t think we have produced one successful lineman since Slick Rick started (i.e. Kalil, Clemmings, and Beavers are all that come to mind). However, our team seems to have put the money on the line (pun intended). We spent hug on mediocre/slightly above mediocre tacklers) which was completely necessary. This year was awful in the draft for O lineman, free agency seemed decent with plenty of aging options, but the Vikings have tried the old quick patch fix the past year and it failed…miserably. No more one year prove it deals for washed up tackles. Instead, the Vikings gave a lot of money away to players with little injury history, and to contracts that don’t guarantee much beyond 2017 so easy to cut if they start to decline. I think the Vikings got too much heat for these signings. Again, they were necessary to improve possibly the worst O line to ever play for the Vikings.
    We then go and ball out and get one of the ONLY decent O line draftees this year, Elflein. I may gush too much over this guy, but I believe he will be the anchor this team has almost always had at center. To go from Birk to Sullivan wasn’t even fair. I forgot what it was like to have poor interior lineman play for the Vikings. Berger did a fine job considering his experience and his surrounding cast and I think Boone is overrated. I love the physical play style Boone brings and the guy is hilarious to listen too. But i remember watching too many goal line appearances where his tall frame seemed to crumble against 320lb behemoths keeping our RB’s from crossing the goal line (and too many 3rd and 1’s to count). With Elflein in the mix, I think this will only add to a new nasty O line mentality. The dude doesn’t give up, is smarter than most lineman and has the competitive edge necessary to make up for what he lacks physically. I’m excited to see how this group does, but the depth is concerning for me. We hit the injury bug again and it all comes tumbling down. But hopefully we are now young enough to hold that bug at bay.

    WR’s improved with the addition of Floyd. It says something to how well/poorly Treadwell is progressing, but hopefully the competition drives him to success. I doubt it though, still fuming over that pick. All we talked about last draft was how we were in perfect position to pick the best player available and then we pick Treadwell?? That was a postion of need and there was a reason 3 WR’s were selected before him. Treadwell rant over…could’ve had Michael Thomas, ok now it’s over). CP was on his way out two years ago and I’m ok with that. Yes, his return presence will be missed, but I wont miss an overly gody contract for who amounts to a mere gadget player. Personally, I would love to see Diggs at KR/PR. He is unbelievable as a returner if you’ve watched his tape, but with his slight frame and importance as a WR, I don’t see the coaches allowing that. Coley can maybe help replace CP on returns. TE’s are still solid. I really liked Morgan from last year, but I hope his injury doesn’t drag his career down. Hodges has a lot of work to do but his measurables are exciting (6’6″ and 4.50 40yd dash). Rudolph can continue to hold down the fort.

    RB- WE DID IT!! WE FINALLY GOT A RUNNING GAME TO SUIT OUR OFFENSE!!!
    For all you AP lovers, maybe don’t read the next few lines. Was he amazing at getting records and playing his heart out?? Yes. Did he give an identity to an otherwise nameless franchise?? Yes indeed. Did he fumble when the big game was on the line?? The ones that mattered, oh yeah, you better believe it. Fumbles the ball to help give the Seahawks back the lead in 2015, and fumbles THREE times in the NFC confernece game against those dim witted, wart infested, dickless, brainless, classless things called the SAINTS…of all team names, they should really think about changing theirs. AP was great, but he also cost this franchise the opportunity of being relevant by needing a salary that paid him more than double of most (if not all) other RB’s. Then the SOB goes and signs with the team who shall not be named (again) and at a measly $7 mil over two years. Had he accepted that kind of money with us, or even averaged 7mil per season (like he deserved) then maybe he would have a few SB rings to boast. Can’t get a quality QB when you’re paying your RB like a QB.
    But onto bigger and better things. We now have a great complement RB with Murray (our downfield inbetween tackler runner) and Cook (our side to side, ideal shotgun runner). They can both catch passes, and then we have McKinnon who is icing on the cake. I sure hope Cook doesn’t flop, but even if he does our RB backfiled is still better than what we had to deal with last year. I don’t think people understand how important this is for Sam Bradfords development on this Vikings team. We were one dimensional last year. No running game makes the field open up a WHOLE lot less. Now, teams should have to at least consider the running game when playing the Vikings and have to worry about not one, not two, but three RB’s that have all done well in the passing game in the past. Put Bradford in shotgun with any combo of those 3 RB’s and teams are going to have headaches with who will stay and block, will both RB’s go out for those short passes Sam Bradford throws so well, or will the Vikings just run the ball??

    Now, speaking of those short passess Bradford is so adapt at throwing. I find it hilarious that some Vikings fans expect Bradford to throw the ball deep 20 times a game when his WR’s can’t even run 20yds before Bradford is on the ground. The rare occasions Bradford did go deep, he seemed to be spot on almost every time. I could be wrong, but I would expect to see the number of completed deep throws on our offense to go way up this year under Bradford. If the O line can meet its moderate expectations and our RB’s are as good as I’m hoping they will be, the sky will be the limit for this team. But hey, it’s the offseason. This kind of speculation is what makes the offseason fun, or even bearable. Here’s to another year watching Vikings fball. Hopefully the season will end in Feb where the Vikings begin the season in Sept. #SKOL

  • NJR

    Very solid off season. The only thing preventing an A grade was missing out on Whitworth. All the talks were that he was staying in Cincy but then he signs a short deal with a crappy team for not too much more than Rieff. With guarantees out of the way, Reiffs contract will likely be 2-3 years. I am confident that they could have gotten 2 solid years from Whitworth.

  • Famfirst

    SKOL! Lets get to the field and see how this works out.

  • Andre Esters

    A solid B is a fair grade… of course, its difficult to know anything of value in May, but the hopes are plenty high. With worth while additions on offense, minor touches on defense, it all adds up to decent attention to needs. Hopefully guys can maintain health this time around. I’m extra excited to see an offense I don’t recognize out there…

  • Clayton R. Brooks II

    I’d give the team a B+ for the off-season as a whole. They didn’t lose anyone extremely valuable (outside of maybe Munnerlyn) and found either suitable replacements or upgrades for those they did allow to walk. My only concern at this point is the o-line additions, namely at the tackle positions. Not much depth there and if Reiff and/or Remmers go down, that’s likely going to mean trouble for the offense again. Neither one of them is great, but hopefully good enough to get the job done in 2017. Love what they did in the draft, especially picking up Cook and Elflein early. Hopefully the offense will be much better in 2017 and keep the defense fresher than in 2016.
    About the only thing I’m not agreeing with on this piece is the analysis that defensive back is a weakness/concern. Not sure how that’s even a possibility since they were third versus the pass last year. The roll at least 3 deep at CB, maybe four if Alexander improves in year two. Harrison Smith is one of the top safeties in the game today. The only concern I can see is Andrew Sendejo, who actually played pretty well last year. He’s not great by any stretch, but he wasn’t too much of a liability either. There were other areas of concern far greater than the secondary last year, and going into 2017 as well.

  • Topgunn

    Regarding our defense: That’s why I’m confused Zim is openly stating Kendricks will remain in the middle when we have 2 potential thumpers in the middle in Brothers and Gedeon. With a base defense with Kendricks and Barr on the outside and Brothers or Gedeon in the middle I think we’d be fine. Then Brothers or Gedeon comes out when Newman or Alexander enters the game. Maybe this will be the case when we get to training camp, but for the life of me I don’t understand the emphatic “Kendricks will remain in the middle” stance we’re taking right now.

  • Ethan James Schuver

    Man, y’all suck and I truly hope none of you are actually Vikings fans.





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